After my talk around cultural organizng and collectivity I was struck by a conversation about South Korea, as there the kind of collective action I was talking about seem impossible, coming together like that - maybe you are in the past over here, I was told. While another voice told me that in Denmark there is a long tradition of coopertative work and strong trade unionism, there they run collectively a dance initiative - but things changed since they received funding rather than when they were independently organized.